Wednesday, 11 November 2015

Why can't he see that I have replied him?


PLEASE REPLY

I have to thank you once again for re-reminding me on the question and showing me this great grace - what do you know? Atheists can show their emotional-cructches called acts of kindness too even though they have no non-fallacious way of ontologically justifying/ grounding it in OBJECTIVE terminologies hahahaha (just teasing you).

Secondly ... I do not believe that anybody has 100% conviction power over the subjectivity over another person. But this is an analogy and it does not apply to this objective real life - so I will play with you

Is this objectively moral or Inmoral?
This is objectivly immoral of this analogical you. And I want to lay MORE emphasis on the fact that you used the word "objective" to as an adjective for moral.

How did you come to that conclusion?
Here how I come to that conclusion by reshaping this argument (1):

THE MORAL ARGUEMENT
1. It is more reasonable to believe that moral obligations come from moral laws givers.
2. To be Objective means to be true IRRESPECTIVE of if everybody thinks subjectively that it is wrong.
3. To be true means that you have to endure constantly and neccessaily without neccesarily being contingent on physical reality.
4. God is Constant and  Necessry Being.
5. "Persons" intrinsically imbible morality into their nature.
6. God is Person.
7. God is a constant and necessary being because HE deped on no one and nothing else to exist.
8. God is the best inference (OR reference point) to grounding true objective values because HE is a constant and necessary being.
9. Objective values and duties DO exists.
10. Therefore, deductively, it necessarily follows that it is more reasonable to believe that God exists as the best ontological grounding for objective moral values and duties.

more justification
Your analogical self in the example is objectively immoral because your actions go anti- to the actions that God would generally take in that condition - ie, given that there are no other sufficient moral reasons God will do the opposite. However, I do not see any other sufficient moreal reasons why you moral-goodness would come out from being like "satan" [name meaning "accuser"] - who convinces people not to take morally good actions but later on the day of judgement, would accuse them/ sue them in God's court for being convinced by him in the first place. If you have any additionaly moral sufficiency of why what the analogical-you did to Jame is good, just and fair to James (seeing that you have 100% conviction power over him) then please ... give the reasons. Maybe James is in on this too and he is willingly allowing you to 100% convince him into evil knowing that you would sue him later on. No different than you know that the devil will sue you for not believing in God but you still choose not to believe in God by allowing the devil to 100% convince you to believe that God is not real - just an example, I do not want to add anything into the mouth of your analogy - i'm just expanding IF sufficient moral reasons justify you from doing this evil deed.

This is to say that God is not like the deceiving-god of Islam. God does not lie nor deceive:

Numbers 23:19
God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?

And since your analogical moral actions are nothing like God's Objective, unchanging and morally good actions - you are therefore immoral.

Here is a link on how Atheism FAILS on grounds of morality (2).

So... why don't you tell me... are your analogical actions OBJECTIVELY moral or immoral on an atheistic platform without fallacious appealing to:
- Population: and saying "that's how everyone thinks"
- Emotions/ Pain: and saying "if it does not hurt/ harm anyone" as if people who hurt/ harm themselves in the gym are objectively evil
- subjectivism/ relativism: because this destroys the original question as to the "objectiveness" of morality.

I look forward to your reply.

God bless you

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