Sunday 11 June 2017

War is not Strategy in Islam, War is deceipt–a reply to Bakar Udhin

HIS COMMENT

War is deceit
It means strategy, the prophet was a head of state and military leader, not  a leader of a terrorist group!
When Kuwait was invaded, general General Schwartpof devised a strategy to free it!

MY REPLY

You are right Mr Bakar Udhin  that General Schwartpof devised a strategy to free Kuwait when it was invaded and you agree that this is not General Schwartpof we are talking about. It is Muhammad in accordance to islamic theology that we are talking about and what islamic theology really says about him right? and I have search everywhere to help support your wonderful arguements. Surely, not one of the english translators of the MANY places in islamic theology every show that "War is Strategy" This includes translations such as
- Sahih Bukhari 4:52:267
- Sahih Bukhari 4:52:268
- Sahih Bukhari 4:52:269
- Abu Dawud 14:2631
- etc

So you and I can agree that according to your logical arguements, these islamic scholars are DISTORTERS of Arabic to English translations.

And assuming that they are not distorters of Arabic-to-English translations.. but that this is translations that have stood the test of time, the test of language and the test of scholarship from islamic Arabic-to-English translations known over the world, then you will notice that even a simple person like me can use google translate to transliterate the Arabic into English to prove that these islamic Arabic-to-English translaters got the CORRECT translation and gave it to us for the right CONTEXTS.

Consider Sir, for example the hadith in this link http://quranx.com/Hadith/Bukhari/USC-MSA/Volume-4/Book-52/Hadith-267/

The Arabic word used there is khadeatan ( خَدْعَةً) which means in majority to "trick, decption, hoax, fraud, ploy, ruse, artifice etc". These are the words with the strogest equivalent meaning. There is not a single iota of "Strategy" there. The word that comes close to khadeatan meaning "strategy" in that list is the weak equivalent meaning called "Strategem".

Type down "Define Strategem" in google and see that it is a plan or scheme. But it doens just stop there, it says, "ESPECIALLY" one used to outwit an opponent or achieve an end. Type "define outwit" into google again and see that it means to "deceive by greater ingenuity". So DECEPTION is in strategem. The second definition of strategem in google says "skill in devising plans or schemes" ... but it doesnt just end there, it puts, "semi-colon (;)", #cunning. The semi-colon says that what is to come next is part of previous statement in equivalent meaning.

Surely you're a man of Allah who is not ashamed of Allah and you want to tell the truth of Allah in everything you do and say, this is what I respect about you, because you will even tell me the bitter truth. As much as I want to believe you, I will ask you to show me where in all of Islamic theology does it ever say that "War is Strategy". The word "strategy" in Arabic is iistratijia (إستراتيجية). And I am yet to see it.

Notice that I am using simple google to talk to you as it is a simple mechanism for us to use that is unbiased.

#ComeToJesus

Deception from al-bukhari - war is deception

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